Wednesday, April 4, 2007
there was an interesting discussion between a couple of friends of mine about the state of health care in kuwait. one of the guys was complaining about how bad the public hospitals were and how incompetent they're getting. another guy (who happens to be a surgeon) agreed that overall the situation was not so good, but mentioned that the public governmental hospitals were still much better then the private ones. i know, a few people were surprised to hear that but he continued on saying that medically, the public ones were much better. the private hospitals, among many other reasons, dont really have to answer to anyone and that their main aim was, after all, making a profit. his example of why this was true was that almost all private hospitals in kuwait refer all their high risk and very complicated cases to government hospitals, cuz they are not capable of dealing with them.
at the end it made a lot of sense, especially since it came from someone who knows what he's talking about. is it true? i dont know but if we think of it, where does most of the effort in private hospitals go? is it in providing the best health care or providing the most comfortable and luxurious hospital stay? is it true that there is a 7,000 KD per night room at the new 7ayat hospital? last but not least, would you rather, alah laygoola, when facing life and death, would you rather be in a hospital where their main concern and responsibility to the government was to get you back on your feet or would you rather have designer sheets and a coffee shop in the lobby?
on a side note, i just got a msg saying that those 4 poor bangali's DO have bird flu! alah yaster
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Personally, I think government is better than private. I gave birth in two private hospitals and one of them nearly killed me. I got pre-natal care from both government and private during my second pregnancy and the government pre-natal care was outstanding while private was less than average. When it came down to delivery though, I chose private for comfort and my had found a qualified Slovenian doctor who did a great job with my c-section.
Also, the government hospitals have a lot of Kuwaitis who studied abroad (and actually studied) and I find most of them extremely bright and qualified. None of the private doctors picked up on the fact that one of my children has anemia and other problems. It was a Kuwaiti doctor at Amiri who picked up on everything.
Honestly I have had bad experiences from both sides, goverment and private. The main reason i dont like the way private hospitals work is their lack of supervision. There is a doctor who has become head of a private hospital in Kuwait that was banned from practicing medicine due to inhumane practices (i believe he killed someone). Interesting isnt it? I think the main reason private hospitals exist in kuwait is society utter obsession with material things. Honestly this whole entire ordeal regarding overpriced rooms etc... makes me sick. You go to the hospital to get better, not to show off how nice your hospital room is..
if a private hospital is not doing a good job then people wont go there and if it is doing a really bad job then it could be shut down by the government.. but if government hospitals are not doing a good job then who is going to hold them accountable?!
Well i don't care if its private or government hospital as long as i'm getting the right treatment...
As for Royal Hayat hospital yup there's a suite for 6000 KD per night...they are my clients...it's a very posh hospital and they have so many customers as well...u should see their plastic surgery section...thats another story!
OMG 9ara7a iL kalam e5ari3 !! is this realy happening ??
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nice topic wallah! i think both of them have advantages and disadvantages!
I think the better is who can offer the maximum to their patients.
doctors in public hospitals face two main problems: za7ma + lack of new facilitates!
Provide those for them, believe me you will not need the private ones.
hmmmmm interesting!
In bahrain, we have both private and govermental hospitals.. both are good.. I prefer the private ones, becuase they take good care of the patients and their medication is better!
bas we have a private section in the govermental hospitals... the prices arent high.. around 60 dinars per night.. the room has a comfy bed, mini fridge, a large bathroom, tv and a satellite......etc
fa y3nee it's kinda reasonable! o tara it's called a hospital after all..!
fa laish mayswonlkom chethee? :P
very interesting subject
theres alot of room for improvement for both the private n public hospitals
personally i want both comfort, good service, and the best medical care possible
thats why i choose to go abroad for anything and everything
plus government hospitals yomhum 3an sina
and part of the reason private hospitals send critical patients to gov. is because they dont want blood on their hands
Depends on the Hospital i say.
Last month my father cut his hand.
it was so deep and scary . his clothes were drownd in blood .. and he nearly fainted.
Is3af Came moving so Effing slow.
Okay il is3af is another story. but the HOSPITAL?
7ukoma.
-AKO ABRAD? ana ib 3umree ma sheft.
-All The corridors SMELL!
-Chairs in the waiting Rooms Are All BROKEN!
-And The DOCTORS the DOCTORS the DOCTORS! Wallah ashek inhum actual doctors ..
-The Rooms people sleep in are ALL SMELLY .. They smell like Kitchen@@.
Kitchen And a Toilet together Oh and not to forget ree7at 3arag everywhere.
One Big EW!
-Once a person goes to sleep. He wakes up to find All his stuff Stolen! ..
Hathy Allah igoolha?
Wallah i'd rather pay a Million for a better atmosphere . and doctors who actually CARE. and Know what their Effing Doing!
Brrrghhhh!
it's true. high-risk cases are usually sent to public hospitals because 3indihum ajhiza ilprivate hospitals don't have. ya3ni mathalan itha wa7da was planning on giving birth ib the new 5*hospital o she had complications o ildikatra mayadroon shisawoon she will be sent to mustashfa ilwilada.
fee ppl who choose private hospitals because they just feel like they would get better services because it costs a lot. my professor was telling us about this case 2 weeks ago. fee wa7id yab wilda 3ashan yif7i9on his hearing o he just started cussing o threatening everyone o galihum biroo7 mustashfa kha9..ildiktor galla lat9arrikh o itha bitroo7 kha9 ana misti3id adfa3 ilfatoora 3annik. guess who came back a month later to apologize and to get his son's hearing tested li2ina ilprivate hospitals ma3indihum ilequipment?
and another thing (yimkin ba3ir 3an ilmawthoo3 shway) u know lama nas itgool "ilmostashfa ilflaniya (ilkha9a) 3indihum A7DATH jihaz"? tara mu bas ina iljihaz is a7dath wa7id means ina it's the best aw ina it does something the previous model aw whatever doesn't do! laish il7ikooma ta9rif malayeen 3ala jihaz aydad ili isawi nafs ilashya2 mal iljihaz ilqadeem itha marada mara7 yinjas?!
apologies for the long comment!
thank you guys for your comments, all have been very interesting responses, i dont know what is the truth but in any case i wish everyone good health and a long life enshala :D
the royal hayat hospital is owned by people in the car sellin industry who dont know what they are doin, haram for people to run a hospital that is so dangerous to have babies being born sick, the air causes asthma so much smelly stuff, its a big lie,,,,, they are bad people for having such a place built, it is like kuwait healthcare very poor, the hospital is a lie
as for plastic surgery ask the american lady who had such bad surgery she showed everyone her breastss,, they are afta money
Never never in my life I have seen such a bad hospital. It is just baby birth there which can be done in home, they are surviving. Any other illness they would have sent everyone dead.They are fooling everyone in the name of 5 star healthcare. There is nothing 5 star, and medical facilities are not even 1 star. MOH should close down such hospitals to save public from being cheated. PK is fit to run Bhakalas only.
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